Saturday, 19 October 2019

Circular No 937







Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.
Caracas, 19 October 2019 No. 937
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Dear Friends,
Here is the story on the seminarian and classmate Peter Draaibas / Ignatius Draaibas.
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idmitch@anguillanet.com
Fri, 30 Aug, 18:23
Thanks, Jan,
Do you by any chance have a copy of Draaibas’ photograph at a higher resolution for Ladislao to be able to include possibly in a Circular?
Best,
Don
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From: Jan Koenraadt <jankoenraadt@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 17:40
Dear Nigel and others,
Thank you for this speedy inquiry about Ignatius Draaibas.
Amazing that Peter Gittens is there and remembers him as Iggy from before 1956.
Between 1954 and 1958 my brother Gerard was also at the small seminary and my brother Thijs between 1956 and 1960.
Ignatius visited my parents and my two brothers at home in Suriname somewhere around 1960 before he left to the Netherlands to continue his studies to become a priest.
I was still a little boy then 9-10 years old.
I got a reply from his daughter, that he was indeed an old seminarist of the small seminary of Mount St. Benedict.
After two years on a trip to Switzerland he met Lucie also from Suriname and later they got married and had two daughters.
Later he was appointed Deacon for the Diocese of Utrecht in the Netherlands and for de Surinam community in Amsterdam.
He deceased in 2014 when he was 81 years!
After spoiling his five grandchildren when they came for lunch to him during school time for some years!
At the end he had a chance to visit Suriname again with his daughters to enjoy it all.
He came from a village Bigi Poika in the interior of Suriname and stayed with foster parents in Paramaribo for school.
They sent him to Mount St. Benedict.
The church in Suriname must have had high hopes of him because he would have been the first priest of Surinam origin.
Because the next native priest after him, Mgr. Aloysius Zichem, was appointed bishop of Surinam in 1970 when he was 37 years.
Ignatius Draaibas is his civilian name, Peter Dribas could possibly be him, but that the name was wrongly retrieved from faded memory?
Or it is indeed a second person.
His obituary is on internet, but it is in Dutch 
My parents had a prayer card from him when he left Surinam to go to the Netherlands in 1960.
That was the only thing I had of him.
I attach it to this email with his picture.
The oldest database I have is from December 31, 2012.
If there is a more recent version, I would be very obliged to receive it with many thanks.
Much greetings and be well
Jan Koenraadt
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Op 29-8-2019 om 19:25
schreef Peter Gittens:
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the efforts on filling-in-the-blanks on Ignatius Draaibas. 
One small point that I dispute is the year that “Iggy” (as we called him) came to MSB.
It was before 1956, not 1958.
I know this for a fact, because when I came to MSB minor Seminary in January 1956, Ignatius was already there, and he was one of the first people I met and to got to know very well; we were very close until he left for Holland perhaps in 1958 or thereabouts.
Anyway, just a FYI note.
Peter.
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On Aug 29, 2019, at 12:01 PM,
Nigel Boos <nigelboos@gmail.com> wrote:
Don,
Thanks for this note.
I was unaware that Shis had taken over control of the MSB dB, and you’re so right.
Instead of referring any notes I might have on the matter to Kaz, and with all due respect to him for his agreement to take over control of the dB after I could no longer do it, I’ll now instead refer these notes to Shis, ‘cos he’s de man!
So, Shis - here’s the dope:
In 1958 or thereabouts, Peter Dribas came from Surinam to the monastery at MSB as a “late vocation” and was housed in the section of the monastery which we later called the “Major Seminary”.
He was friendly with Gerard and Thijs Koenraadt, who were then Junior Seminarians at the “Minor Seminary" within the monastery proper.
On his assumption as a seminarian, he apparently took the name “Ignatius” in honour of St. Ignatius (of Loyola? - founder of the Jesuits).
He represented the Abbey School at football competitions, and his mighty right foot could blast the ball from one goal-post right down-field to the opposing goal.
He left MSB and immigrated to the Netherlands where he perhaps joined another Dutch monastery for a period of 1-2 years before the ceased his studies for the priesthood and was married.
He had 2 daughters, who are now in touch with Jan Koenraadt in Holland.
Ignatius became a Deacon for the Cathedral in Utrecht, and eventually he died in 2014.
Would you please add these notes to the DataBase, since it seems that my efforts to do so are bearing no fruit?
Thanks, everyone.
Nigel
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On Aug 29, 2019, at 10:36 AM,
 <idmitch@anguillanet.com> wrote:
Hi, Nigel,
I think you may want to reach out to George.
You delegated the database to Kazim about a year ago, and then Kazim delegated it to George who volunteered some months ago.
George has already circulated several updates, the last I believe dated 23 June.
Until you resume control of the database, I will assume that George's is the definitive version.  
I'm sure you don't want two, far less three, persons issuing independently updated versions, as then you will never know if any of them is complete.  
Best,
Don
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From: Nigel Boos <nigelboos@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2019 09:59
Gentlemen,
Thank you for the many inputs you’ve sent me, as I try to solve the question of Peter Draaibas.
I’m sure that his two daughters will be thrilled to know that their dad was remembered by so many of us.
I’ve amended my version of the MSB dB to try to include your notes, and I include my version here for anyone who would care to have a look:
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Jan Koenraadt <jankoenraadt@gmail.com>
30 Aug 2019, 18:27
I wish I could Don, but I only pulled it from internet from this site 
No others appear.
If I get any better ones and they permit me I will send you!
I just typed his name in Google and got that. Don't know what you get if you try the same.
Greetings
Jan
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idmitch@anguillanet.com
30 Aug 2019, 18:56  
I see what you mean. 
A Google search did not produce anything better. 
Ladislao will just have to say sorry to the readers of the Circular.
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Nigel Boos <nigelboos@gmail.com>
Wed, 28 Aug, 08:39  
Hold on, Jan.
Hold on.
I was just about to add Ignatius’ name to the dB, when I found that I had, in fact, listed a boy by the name of Peter Dribas, who had first gone to MSB in 1962, 2 years after I’d left
I suppose that he is the person you’re looking for, since my note also said that he was a seminarian from Surinam.
I believe, if you can track down his daughters, they should be able to provide you with his correct name.
Of course, the possibility exists, that his given (birth) name was actually Peter, but that, when he joined the Benedictine Monastery at MSB, he took the name “Ignatius”, a common enough action taken by most seminarians when they begin their spiritual lives and vocations.
Nigel 
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From: Nigel Boos <nigelboos@gmail.com>
Date: August 28, 2019 at 8:29:28 AM EDT
Jan,
Thanks for enquiring.
No. I do not remember Ignatius at all.
Wish I did.
However, as a result of your enquiry, I’m going to add his name to my copy of the MSB database.
I left MSB in 1960 and have maintained merely a passing acquaintance with the monastery and the Abbey School since that time.
Sorry that I could not be of more help.
One suggestion: Fr. Cuthbert maintained a complete listing of all the OB’s who EVER attended the Abbey School. Perhaps Abbot John Pereira might be willing and able to check Ignatius’ name for you, since Cutty isn’t around any longer.
Nigel
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On Aug 27, 2019, at 4:08 PM,
Jan Koenraadt <jankoenraadt@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Nigel,
Wanting to ask a question.
I recently came across the daughter of somebody who was a friend with my brothers Thijs and Gerard at home in Surinam around 1960.
I was a little boy then, but he was also studying at a seminary to become priest like my two brothers.
In 1960 he went from Surinam to Holland to follow the studies to become a priest.
At the same time my brother Thijs went to Mount St. Benedict to join the monastery as a novice.
This friend was Ignatius Draaibas from Surinam.
When he left, he came to say goodbye to our family and my parents.
After that I never heard of him anymore.
Through the internet I came in contact with his daughter, and she says he was a seminarist at Mount St. Benedict too.
That I didn't know, I thought he came from the catholic school in Surinam.
I looked it up in de MSB database you made, but his name is not mentioned.
Can you remember his name Ignatius Draaibas as an old MSB boy?
Now I learned that he did study for priest in the Netherlands but quit after two years and went to do something else.
Later he got married and had two daughters Kwini and Kwita.
Later in life he became a diaken for the church of Utrecht and for the Surinam community in Amsterdam.
He deceased in 2014.
But in 1994 he took his family to MSB to show them around.
Maybe his name rings a bell for you?
Much greetings
Jan Koenraadt
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EDITED by Ladislao Kertesz,  kertesz11@yahoo.com,  if you would like to be in the circular’s mailing list or any old boy that you would like to include.
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Photos:
53UN0001FOOTBALL, Igantius Draaibas
07LK8285FBRMA, Robert Mac Lean
59CM0020CMA, Christopher Marothy
60UN0001IDR, Ignatius Draaibas card






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